Sorry folks, this is a long one! OK, it seems that the CoSG Forum is back, don’t know what happened there! Here is another topic, complete with my comments after each post of the thread:-
Helping the English in Scotland.
Not sure if this has been addressed yet.
You get politicians and activists who dedicate their lives to representing the interests of their own people or group in a particular country such as Galloway represents the Muslims for instance in Parliament,
The Scottish Parliament is elected on proportional representation not first past the post making defensive representation easier.
Is there any reason why someone representing the interests of the English people, a beleaguered and often violently suppressed minority, should not be elected on that ticket.
While the English are afraid to speak out for fear of violence they can quietly put an X in the box of someone who will fight their corner.
Well I know a few English people up here and they don’t feel themselves as a “violently suppressed minority”, in fact they feel quite welcome here, as do I, but then being Cornish I suppose that could be put down to the Celtic brotherhood at work. I don’t actually see how the English can see themselves as a “violently suppressed minority” when in fact they make up the majority of the population!
Well what might spark it off is a thread which exposes anti-Englishness in Scotland where people can write their experiences which we can forward to politicians and the press.
In fact this would be a good thread in Campaigns. We could write to the Scotsman saying it exists and that English people in Scotland should write in.
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There is only one
English region
She is called
ENGLAND
Again I am not aware of “anti-Englishness” in Scotland, usually any problems that the English encounter up here is of their own making, by bringing their preconceived stereotypes of the Scots as drunken thugs across the border with them…
Funny how we take for granted and tolerate groups such as ‘London Irish’ or ‘London Scottish’. Can you imagine equivalent groups such as ‘Edinburgh English or ‘Glasgow English’ in Scotland? I can’t! I simply do not believe that they would be tolerated. Any building accommodating such overtly English groups would have its windows put in and be subject to other kinds of damage.There would be difficulty in arranging insurance cover.
I guess that it’s because the English tolerate this refusal of the Scots to integrate and their insistence upon remaining distinct from the English in England that, even though they do not reciprocate in Scotland, they feel free in government to insist that we English also tolerate the differences immigrants bring to England, and their remaining as distinct and unintegrated as Scots!
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Seeking true democracy for England & the
English.
I reiterate that most of the English in Edinburgh, Glasgow and Scotland generally; they are not tolerated, they are welcomed. Again those who have trouble probably attract it with covertly racist remarks about the Scots. The Scots do not refuse to “integrate”, however, can one blame them for wanting to distance themselves from the worst excesses of the daily tabloid mentality that is being shown here?
Lance Dragon wrote:
“Well what might spark it off is a thread which exposes anti-Englishness in Scotland where people can write their experiences which we can forward to politicians and the press.”
In fact this would be a good thread in Campaigns. We could write to the Scotsman saying it exists and that English people in Scotland should write in.
Anti-English sentiment in Scotland eh? ive got two lagre scars on my hand due to 6 knobhead scots and one getting to eager with a mad dog 20/20 bottle, luckily my hand was covering my face otherwise the scars would have been elsewhere. I have many more examples. perhaps a thread on the matter may not be a bad idea.
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Unsheath your swords all Englishmen,
Great winds of change are blowing,
King Alfred strides his land again,
And Drake’s loud drum is rolling.
I notice that it didn’t take long for the abusive remarks (6 knobhead scots) to begin, what can I say, except I wonder what he said to provoke such a violent reaction.
KnightofStGeorge wrote:
Lance Dragon wrote:
“Well what might spark it off is a thread which exposes anti-Englishness in Scotland where people can write their experiences which we can forward to politicians and the press”.
“In fact this would be a good thread in Campaigns. We could write to the Scotsman saying it exists and that English people in Scotland should write in.”
Anti-English sentiment in Scotland eh? ive got two lagre scars on my hand due to 6 knobhead scots and one getting to eager with a mad dog 20/20 bottle, luckily my hand was covering my face otherwise the scars would have been elsewhere. I have many more examples. perhaps a thread on the matter may not be a bad idea.
Whilst in the Army the scots regiments were known as “POISON DWARFS”
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Love of own Country and own Folk is not a
crime! (England Awake, we have a job to do)
Well, I think this speaks for itself…
The Scots regiments are very selective of whom they let in Englishfolk are generally encouraged not to join and ones who do hear about it, you would think they were not apart of the British army or so the adverts tell me anyway the line at end “Scottish Infantry - forward as one”
Sooner we separate the better then the dwarves can direct their poison elsewhere
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Unsheath your swords all Englishmen,
Great winds of change are blowing,
King Alfred strides his land again,
And Drake’s loud drum is rolling.
Seems to me that the only ones directing poison here are the English…
In the largest numbers are recruited in the North of England, would you believe!
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Seeking true democracy for England & the English.
Surprising, I would have thought it to be the South East…
you got to laugh…..you guys are upset about anti-englishness in scotland when this site lives and breathes anti-scottishness!!! Unbelievable. And again confirms my view that this hypocritical site serves only to undermine the worthy cause of English Independence. With your attitudes, you ain’t going to get very far.
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When that last colony Scotland has the courage to break free from English control, both Scotland and England will be truly independent.
At last a lonely voice in the wilderness…
Watch out! Watch out! there’s a troll about!
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true democracy for England & the English.
They really don’t like the argument brought to them, especially when it is the truth!
The anti scottishness seen on this site, is in response to the anti Englishness
brought about in the flesh for English people living in Scotland.
Now I
know you did crap after pop idol, but that’s not our fault, and you probably got
the Scottish vote that made you win it anyway.
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This is
England
The first bit of this is absolute and utter rubbish, I am not going to repeat myself. The second bit, well I am at a loss to know what this person is ranting about…
The English antagonism toward Scotland is a recent phenomenon.
English hate is a deep rooted, genetic and an institutionally reinforced national
requirement in Scotland.
The recent English reciprocity is a reaction; it is a revelation.
The Jocks don’t like it but sadly for them they will have to deal with it.
Any Jocks looking in can get a cure for them there chips etc here:
This is just so ridiculously racist that it merits only the briefest comment…
so english jac and tommy england admit they and the english are anti-scottish and racists.
Proves my point. This is a racist website full of hate towards scots (and other nations who are not english).
You have just confirmed it. Thank you.
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When that last colony Scotland has the courage to break free from English control, both Scotland and England will be truly independent.
The lonely voice again…
Michelle wrote:
so english jac and tommy england admit they and the english are anti-scottish and racists.
Proves my point. This is a racist website full of hate towards scots (and other nations who are not english).
You have just confirmed it. Thank you.
Monthly rant?
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Love of own Country and own Folk is not a crime! (England Awake, we have a
job to do)
The lonely voice is that of a woman, so it must be wrong, she can’t possibly know what she is talking about. “Monthly rant?” is just so sexist that it beggars belief!
we are not racist, we hate every country that skives the hell out of england, now go do a jig on the edge of a cliff, or throw a log or somthing
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This is England
Methinks that this person doth protest too much; if you have to say “we are not racist” that would indicate that there is some racism in there somewhere. If you are not racist it is evident without having to tell the world that you are not racist!
Michelle wrote:
so english jac and tommy england admit they and the english are anti-scottish and racists.
Proves my point. This is a racist website full of hate towards scots (and other nations who are not english).
You have just confirmed it. Thank you.
This site is NOT racist. Admittedly, there are some racist types who post on here from time to time, but it’s unfair to label all of us in the same way. As for anti-Scottish, most fair minded people here are anti-Scottish politicians rather than anti-Scottish people. I don’t have an axe to grind against the Scots, only your politicians like Blair, Brown, Falconer, Darling, Reid etc.
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Home Rule For
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“I don’t have an axe to grind against the Scots, only your politicians like Blair, Brown, Falconer, Darling, Reid etc.” But the English elected them; and they can’t deny it, they are by far the majority of the population! Sorry guv it wasn’t me, I’m only holding the gun I didn’t pull the trigger; don’t make me laugh!
Why is it that while there are some Scottish people who abuse others us English people don’t accuse the Scottish of being all hooligans and anti English they are not. There is an undercurrent of Scots who are and it is the politicians who are stirring anti English sentiment up for their own ends.
There are however some Scots, among the anti English minority who jump at the chance to accuse English people, all English people of being anti Scottish, these are the ones we need to defend our fellow English men and women across the border from.
At the risk of repeating myself ad infinitum English people in Scotland do not need defending against anti-Englishness, this is a fallacy; those that need defending usually bring it on themselves and should learn to keep their big mouths shut!
Well I’m against any kind of hatred towards other nationalities!
I’m English….and so, so very proud of it. I don’t need to intimidate or belittle
anyone to make myself feel any prouder about England.
However, most of my friends who are English refer to themselves as BRITISH! I have a few Scottish and Welsh friends, but they don’t make that same mistake as refering themselves as British!
The English people are asleep!! WE NEED TO AWAKEN THEM.
Scotland rules England!! This needs to change.
Anyway if English people feel intimidated by living in Scotland…. Then they should bloody move back to England where the grass is always greener!
I’m going to see the Kaiser Chiefs in Glasgow (mental note Tez - don’t wear the England shirt! )
Again this speaks for itself, the main argument I have with this is “Scotland rules England!!” which I think any thinking person would disagree with, but that is another far longer argument.
A friend of a friend (who knows nothing about football) went to the toilet, and a Scottish Patriotic (wearing a football shirt) said to him “huh good luck in the world cup!” The friend replied “You too!”
I think he was close to getting his head kicked in! hehe
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Be England what she
will,
With all her faults she is my country still.
I rest my case, preconceived stereotype of the drunken Scottish thug! Personally I can’t see anything funny here…
Tez8 wrote:
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mental note Tez - don’t wear the England shirt!
Indeed, but THEY do not shrink from wearing any Scottish regalia in England, which just sums up the difference between the two nations.
Do remember though, that this thread is about helping the English in Scotland ie
the English who are not just visiting whether to see the KCs or anyone else!
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Seeking true democracy for England & the English.
Indeed they do not shrink from “wearing any Scottish regalia” in Scotland either. I just don’t see what this person is getting at with such pointless remarks.
Take the Cross of St George off the back of the car too. Unless you like randomly modified bodywork, of course.
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More English preconceptions, and complete bollocks to boot!
We would be better with some sort of campaign protecting the English in Ireland and Wales too! It’s not just limited to Scotland, or even the British Isles for that matter!
They would be better if they stopped whingeing about being a “violently suppressed minority” and tried sorting the problem they want solving in a rational and achievable manner. Their aims as they are at present are unachievable, however, fighting for more devolved powers to local authorities would be a much more achievable goal. My advice is, stop blaming everyone else and get on and fight your battles with government; dragging all of these internally racist side issues into the argument is going to get you absolutely nowhere, that is except being marginalised as a bunch of loonies who no one listens to!