Nationalists Target Take-aways: Further Thoughts

Having slept on yesterday’s post some further thoughts arise in my mind about the whole takeaway thing, and this apart from the racism by implication that is inherent within this piece. Thoughts such as, did the person who wrote it do so after going for a curry, or a Chinese? But seriously, I have gone into a fair few grotty chippies in my time, and have simply walked out again; surely it is not beyond the wit of the average person to notice that such an establishment is not up to the required hygiene standards and to vote with their feet (just walk out), in most cases just the look and smell of such a place is enough for me. The other thing that springs to mind is does the author of this diatribe eat only English food; and if so what does she/he define as “English food”. Personally I think that it is almost impossible to define these days given that the national cuisines have become so fused, with Chinese, Indian, Mexican, Italian etc. etc. influences having crept into the everyday thinking of most people when it comes to thoughts of both eating and cooking. I know that I personally, as someone who enjoys cooking, would not be without a great deal of the herbs and spices from around the world that have come to be so commonplace in today’s kitchens. Also to pick up on the point of what is “English food” once more, such a definition is also almost impossible from another point of view; given the centuries of people coming across from the continent and settling here, the Angles, Saxes’, Jutes, Vikings, Huguenots, Norman French etc. etc. who really knows just what “English food” really is, or even what it was? Maybe the author should take a long hard look at what she/he eats before being so quick to condemn “non-English” takeaways in such a racist manner.

Nationalists Target Take-aways!

Yes indeed takeaways are the latest target of the English Nationalists, no, not the good old English chippy, but those “takeaway outlets [that] are non English“. It seems that the high number of takeaway establishments being closed in Leicester for hygiene related issues has drawn their attention. Their take on the issue runs along the lines of ethnic cleansing, with the English being the minority being cleansed, I give you:-

Many may view the replacement of the English chippy by foreign Takeaways etc as a great example of multi culture.
Though some may say it is cultural cleansing of the English.

What can I say? Well, this is just a little more of the tabloid thinking of such people, thinking along the lines of “well they’re not one of us old boy, what more can you expect from ‘filthy foriegners’?”.

Justice for England…

This so called list if aims posted on the Justice for England website seems to me to be nothing more nor less than an anti-Scottish/ anti Welsh rant. I know not where the “so-called” facts come from but I very much doubt that they would stand close scrutiny if push came to shove.

I have said before and will continue to say that if these people stopped and took a good lok at their aims and thought them through properly, instead of swallowing the Scotophobia being fosterd by the tabloid press mainly, and the Torygraph specifically then maybe, just maybe they would come up with something worth reading, something that has a little common sense.

BondWoman sent me a link to a very interesting piece on the very topic of Scotophobia a couple of days back; I haven’t read it in detail (be warned it is quite a long piece), but I have read enough to know that it is a very thought provoking piece indeed. The English Nationalists need to take a step back, think about what they want, come up with a scheme that will work, and that includes thinking about the regions of England also; but most of all they want to disassociate themsleves from the virulent, vitriolic, racist bigots that they seem to be attracting, most of whom are simply parrotting what they read in the Scotophobic press.

Accusations!

Well, I have been accused of “petty bigotry”:-

By condemning them all as Sun, Express and Mail readers aren’t you displaying your own petty bigotry?

See the comment here. What a laugh that gave me!

Totally intolerant and curmudgeonly maybe, but bigoted NEVER!

Ironically this comes from someone supporting those virulent, vitriolic bigots and racists who are the unacceptable face of English Nationalism.

Now I would like to make a few things quite clear, once again, as the message does not seem to ever get through:-

a) I am not now and never have spoken against an English Parliament, however, I have voiced my opinion that it would be totally counter intuitive in the form that the English Nationalists want it. This opinion is completely alien to them and they would love to be able to censor anyone who has the temerity to voice it.

b) I do not normally censor people who comment here as I am a stern defender of the right of free speech. The only time that a commentor will be censored is if they do not obey the rules as set out in my comments policy; any insulting, vulgar, bigoted or plain racist comments will be deleted, or at the very least edited.

c) I will not tolerate anyone who tries to use that age old ploy of the English Nationalists when entering into a debate, i.e. the old “I am right and you are wrong” type of argument, and anyone who uses such a ploy in the comments will soon be shown for the complete idiots that they usually are.

Other than that I am always interested in what people think, and find it quite amusing when I am accused of such things as “petty bigotry” when actually the better words would have been “totaly intolerant”; but then I suppose that few people would even recognise the difference between bigotry and intolerance as there is quite a fine dividing line.

Update 1 - 11:20am:

For those who have taken the trouble to read, rather than pick out bits that they don’t like, this is precisely the sort of thing I am talking about; people who do not bother to read, and understand, what I write before passing judgement. They have no respect for anyone other than the narrow minded, racist bigots that they associate with.

Just as a side point “Numptie” is a badge I wear with pride as it only goes to prove my point that when faced with arguments against them these people can do nothing more than resort to insults!

Update 2 - 1:15pm:

It does seem like I am rufflng a few feathers here, perhaps they simply don’t like the truth! I give you this which was sent to my email at 12:45 today from a person who obviously did not want to share his/her opinion with the general public:-

Hi old git

When you call all patriots as you do below.

“Ironically this comes from someone supporting those virulent, vitriolic bigots and racists who are the unacceptable face of English Nationalism”.

Don’t forget your patriotic bigoted racist people are already years ahead of the English.
Helped by the Scottish Raj in westminister that have lead to you talk the way you do about the English.
because if it was not for TB and his fellow Scottish gimps. we would not be talking about this sort of crap.

So before you go on slandering the bulk of the English whom pay for your existence have another think. don’t fancy giving me your real address do you?

Quite charming don’t you think? I think it is soon going to be necessary to add violent to virulent and vitriolic as there does seem to be a degree of implied violence here. If this person had taken the trouble to read and understand what I write he/she would have come across this in a recent reply to a comment:-

I have little time for the more extreme faces of Nationalism of any kind; one only has to look back to the 1930’s to see where rampant nationalism led us, into a second world war! On the other hand I do not and never have denied that there is a case for an English Parliament, but I temper that with the caveat that it must be properly thought out and take all of the English regions into consideration; something that most of the English Nationalists who visit here find hard to understand.

In this short paragraph the operative words are “the more extreme faces of Nationalism of any kind“, which does actually mean what it says; whether they be Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Cornish or English Nationalists there will always be a small minority who run to the extremes and who become the “virulent, vitriolic bigots and racists“, and who are the unacceptable face of Nationalism.

They Really Want to be Popular…

Just a slight touch of sarcasm there to begin…

That is those nice people at the cross of St. George as is evidenced by this little piece, please note the appaling grammar, spelling and haphazard capitalisation:-

I beleive that we should take direct action for the Engish cause.

We need to gather and bring London or most motorways to a halt in protest of wanting an english paliament or independence for England,
or to just say enough is enough on everything i.e. immigration, Taxe’s, EU etc

I beleive that if we do not do this soon, we will not make change.

politicaly, I don’t feel we will have enough power soon enough,
march protests waving banners and flags are now all controlled and are meaningless.

Some how we most unite non politcally and stage a mass Motorway protest or something that will bring the country to a hault.

If some of you have managed to bring people together in one place for the usual march, plackard and flag waving protests, then you should consider doing this for more direct action.
Its you people who have that ability to get every one in one place at one time etc that could do the English cause some good by getting a more direct aproach of a protest together.

If we all could get even a van load of people from each area to go and do something to bring the motorways or something to a hault, (maybe a TV station? any bussiness that would have the whole nation realise that something is wrong and something had gone on even if the media tried to covered it up)
then we would have an effect wouldn’t we, we would them be listened to especialy if it means the country loosing money, and Brown and Blair etc wouldn’t want that would they.

If we don’t manage this soon I beleive we don’t have time to make change in the long run with politics, campaigns and the average protests etc

You can read the whole thing and the reactions to it here.

The whole idea of bringing “the country to a hault” is just such a ludicrous one which is simply going to antagonise all of those people who might just have a little sympathy with their cause. Just maybe Alex Salmond and the SNP could teach them how to go about getting themselves noticed. But to repeat what I said yesterday, what more can one expect of Express, Mail and Sun readers; or it maybe that they somehow think that they are French, and that such tactics will work for them. All I can say is “In their dreams”! I also notice that those good old standby’s bigotry and racism are still very much to the fore…

They Never Really Change do They?

That is the English Nationalists that I am talking about, once again! I have not checked up on what they are saying about things for quite a while now, as quite frankly the began to bore me rigid with the same old things over and over again; but then what can one expect from Express, Mail and Sun readers? Definitely not intellectual debate, and that’s a fact learned from experience.

The latest rant they are having in one of the COSG Forums simply highlights that they are still the bigoted racists that I have always accused them of being. This time they have latched onto the Learco Chindamo case with all of the venom that they can muster.

Go here…

http://news.sky.com/skynews/home

scroll down to bottom and you will see the vote called…
‘Should Philip Lawrence’s killer be deported?’

Ingy,

This is just the sort of illiberal attitude that makes me want to throw up every time I read the racist bigoted bile that they spout. If I thought that it would do any good at all I would point them here for a little education, but I know that it will be a completely futile exercise; because as I have found in the past they cannot learn, their argument always begins with insults and vulgarity, and ends in the tone of “We are right and you are wrong” with absolutely no intention of reasoned debate at all. But, once again, what can one expect from Express, Mail and Sun readers?

SNP Rubbing their Hands in Delight?

I have just read this, and really all I have to say about it is that this must be the best thing to happen for the SNP since actually winning the election a few short months ago.

Well, actually I lied above, this just shows Labour in Scotland as a party completely on the back foot, a party in total disarray. Labour thought that they had Scotland sewn up as tight as a ducks arse, and that come election time they would naturally be voted back into power. It seems that what they neglected to take into consideration is that the voter can, given time, get totally fed up with such onesidedness. The SNP win is the best thing that could have happened here in Scotland, as it now proves that there is at least a credible opposition to the low level corruption that has run hand in hand with the Labour tenure.

The other point worth making here is that now we have a government that is prepared to look at Scottish issues for what they are, and which is not, as Labour was, driven by a Westminster agenda; and I must confess that this is the biggest breath of fresh air north of the border for a very long time.

What a Waste of Resources!

I just came across this story on the BBC website, and it does make one wonder if these people have nothing better to do with their time. I do remember the irritation of the constant clicking coming from those who were enraptured by this crazy puzzle the first time around; and I sincerely hope that such stories do not spawn a whole new generation of cube clicking monsters…